Comments on: Black and Black and Black all Over http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:42:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Kevin Binder http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-339 Kevin Binder Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:07:54 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-339 Hey man, first of all, I wanna thank you for the constructiveness of your comment. And I do agree with what you are saying, when I first wrote this article, I didn't know that much about the Goth or Emo movement, so i was ignorant and I apologize for that. However, I'm still wondering what is it about the movement, that people choose to dress this way or, if it is an outlook on life, what is that outlook. And I've been asking this question trying to understand the whole style, but I just feel like right now, I'm not getting any answers from anyone who is actually a part of the movement. Hey man, first of all, I wanna thank you for the constructiveness of your comment. And I do agree with what you are saying, when I first wrote this article, I didn’t know that much about the Goth or Emo movement, so i was ignorant and I apologize for that.

However, I’m still wondering what is it about the movement, that people choose to dress this way or, if it is an outlook on life, what is that outlook. And I’ve been asking this question trying to understand the whole style, but I just feel like right now, I’m not getting any answers from anyone who is actually a part of the movement.

]]> By: Jason http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-332 Jason Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:40:24 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-332 hey kevin i think tom is right, and so is chan, thats just the way they want to live. im friends with goths and they are actually really friendly, and are just like you or me, they are not all about death and sorrow and eternal suffering (at least not all of them), so why should you have no respect for someone just because they dress different or (in some cases) have a different outlook on life, it is kinda ignorant hey kevin i think tom is right, and so is chan, thats just the way they want to live. im friends with goths and they are actually really friendly, and are just like you or me, they are not all about death and sorrow and eternal suffering (at least not all of them), so why should you have no respect for someone just because they dress different or (in some cases) have a different outlook on life, it is kinda ignorant

]]> By: Kevin Binder http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-330 Kevin Binder Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:53:16 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-330 Ok, sorry but I don't buy the "just styles" thing for one minute. No matter who you are, your clothing is a reflection of your personality, whether its people wearing stuff that everyone else wears because they want to fit in, or deliberately not wearing what everyone else is wearing in order to resist conforming, or wearing whatever you put on that day because you simply dont care what people thing, your clothing is a reflection of how you see yourself. Some people might wear plaid shorts and flat-brimmed hats because they think they look cool, while some might wear studded belts because they think its bad-ass. Its all about how one seems him or herself. For example, I personally wear a lot of zip-up jackets, dark jeans, polo shirts and the like. I wear it because I see myself as someone that balances academics and social life and I believe that what I wear reflects that. I'm aware of fashion, but I don't try to be overly flashy. Therefore I tend to dress moderately, in between someone that tends to study all the time, thus doesn't care as much about what they wear, and your stereotypical frat boy who has the flat-brimmed cap, the popped collar polo, and the entire get-up. So yes my wardrobe reflects who I see myself as, as a person. So thats why I dont buy the "just style" argument. With such a unique style, that does have these stereotypes about it, you obviously chose it for some reason? So what was it? Do you think it says something about yourself as a person, or did you chose it because it helps you blend in with a certain group? What was it that made you pick this style? BTW, if it at all sounds like im being demeaning or belittling in this response, I don't mean it at all, I'm legitimately curious. Ok, sorry but I don’t buy the “just styles” thing for one minute. No matter who you are, your clothing is a reflection of your personality, whether its people wearing stuff that everyone else wears because they want to fit in, or deliberately not wearing what everyone else is wearing in order to resist conforming, or wearing whatever you put on that day because you simply dont care what people thing, your clothing is a reflection of how you see yourself. Some people might wear plaid shorts and flat-brimmed hats because they think they look cool, while some might wear studded belts because they think its bad-ass. Its all about how one seems him or herself.

For example, I personally wear a lot of zip-up jackets, dark jeans, polo shirts and the like. I wear it because I see myself as someone that balances academics and social life and I believe that what I wear reflects that. I’m aware of fashion, but I don’t try to be overly flashy. Therefore I tend to dress moderately, in between someone that tends to study all the time, thus doesn’t care as much about what they wear, and your stereotypical frat boy who has the flat-brimmed cap, the popped collar polo, and the entire get-up. So yes my wardrobe reflects who I see myself as, as a person.

So thats why I dont buy the “just style” argument. With such a unique style, that does have these stereotypes about it, you obviously chose it for some reason? So what was it? Do you think it says something about yourself as a person, or did you chose it because it helps you blend in with a certain group? What was it that made you pick this style?

BTW, if it at all sounds like im being demeaning or belittling in this response, I don’t mean it at all, I’m legitimately curious.

]]> By: chan http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-329 chan Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:45:05 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-329 goth and emo are just styles. If you don't like that, just look away. The stereotypes developed around them are just randomly made up, and only applies to a few people. goth and emo are just styles. If you don’t like that, just look away. The stereotypes developed around them are just randomly made up, and only applies to a few people.

]]> By: Kevin Binder http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Kevin Binder Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:29:11 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-314 Fair enough, your point may or may not be true. As I said, I have little to no respect for the emo/goth movement. However, as you pointed out, my first-hand knowledge of the movement is not exactly profound. The thing is though, if you have an issue with what I'm saying, would you care to educate me on what Im missing/overlooking/ignoring? I feel like that would be a lot more productive for both me and you than simply dismissing me as ignorant and washing your hands of me. So whaddaya say? Fair enough, your point may or may not be true. As I said, I have little to no respect for the emo/goth movement. However, as you pointed out, my first-hand knowledge of the movement is not exactly profound. The thing is though, if you have an issue with what I’m saying, would you care to educate me on what Im missing/overlooking/ignoring? I feel like that would be a lot more productive for both me and you than simply dismissing me as ignorant and washing your hands of me. So whaddaya say?

]]> By: Tom Watson http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Tom Watson Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:15:13 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-307 You obviously have spent no time around goths or emos and have formed an opinion completely out of ignorance. You obviously have spent no time around goths or emos and have formed an opinion completely out of ignorance.

]]> By: Obbie http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-298 Obbie Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:07:47 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-298 I have a black Tux! perhaps that has something to do with this? I have a black Tux! perhaps that has something to do with this?

]]> By: Kevin Binder http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Kevin Binder Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:32:14 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-286 Well thanks, but as you can probably tell from the second quote at the top of the page, I'm not trying to be objective at all. I don't have any respect for the goth or emo movements at all, as I see them as a bunch of suburban kids who have everything that they could ask for in their lives, who pretend they have something legitimate to be depressed about in order to compensate for their underdeveloped social skills. So, that's why I come across as overly subjective, its because I am. If my callousness hurt your feelings, them I'm sorry, but hey, c'est la vie. Well thanks, but as you can probably tell from the second quote at the top of the page, I’m not trying to be objective at all. I don’t have any respect for the goth or emo movements at all, as I see them as a bunch of suburban kids who have everything that they could ask for in their lives, who pretend they have something legitimate to be depressed about in order to compensate for their underdeveloped social skills. So, that’s why I come across as overly subjective, its because I am. If my callousness hurt your feelings, them I’m sorry, but hey, c’est la vie.

]]> By: V http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/2009/black-and-black-and-black-all-over/comment-page-1/#comment-285 V Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:59:37 +0000 http://www.sheimagazine.com/blog/?p=2691#comment-285 Crappy article. Your view at the goth and the emo scene is too subjective. Crappy article. Your view at the goth and the emo scene is too subjective.

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